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Re: Viper

by danbap » Apr 01, 2015 8:37 pm

very nice set up

Re: Viper

by Habiv » May 03, 2012 6:55 am

79ViperInProgress wrote:Sorry for a random question but is that the original blue color or your viper? Im removing a crappy white paintjob from a previous owner and the color underneath appears to be very similar to the color of yours.

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Yes the blue is the original color. It is a bit faded but I try to keep it as shiny as possible :D

Re: Viper

by 79ViperInProgress » Apr 02, 2012 11:37 pm

Sorry for a random question but is that the original blue color or your viper? Im removing a crappy white paintjob from a previous owner and the color underneath appears to be very similar to the color of yours.

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Re: Viper

by transomstand » Aug 30, 2010 6:18 pm

Habiv wrote:
Thanks again for all of the help. I called Teleflex and they explained to me how to get play out of the steering mechanism. The play at the back of the motor is down to zero (was 1 inch) and the play at the steering wheel is around 1.5 - 2 inches. The Teleflex guy said 1.5 inches to each side is normal.

This week I am taking the boat to have the motor raised up on the jack plate. I am a teacher and school starts tomorrow, so hopefully I will be able to get out on the water before the end of the season.
That steering should make driving it much easier, and you'll get a much better feel, I'll be expecting to see you at the River Run :boating:

Re: Viper

by Habiv » Aug 29, 2010 6:37 pm

hydrostream76 wrote:if you have a problem with the pressure you can plug the top 2 or 3 holes
helps a bit
i love the string idea
nice rig by the way,
close up shots look nice
Thanks...the boat is not perfect, but it is in pretty good shape for being 23 years old :)

Re: Viper

by Habiv » Aug 29, 2010 6:35 pm

transomstand wrote:I believe you said you're not running a nose cone, so I can't recommend going to full height, although higher propshaft heights can help handling.

I think you have dual cable steering, let's make sure it's adjusted correctly. Grab your engine, and see if you can shake it side to side (you should not be able to). If you have zero play in the steering, next, address prop shaft height. Tape a string to the front of the V in the hull, run the string down the length of the bottom, just touching the rear of the pad and extend the string past the lower unit and tie it off to something. The string along the bottom should reveal a pronounced hook in the bottom of the hull, that's normal. With the prop off, level the prop shaft with the string. Adjust the jackplate/engine bolts until the prop shaft is about 2" below the string(if you had a cone, we would want to be higher).

At this point, your propshaft is 2" below the bottom, and your trim angle is neutral. Hop in the boat and sight the engine, noting the trim angle, this is the way the engine should be set while your learning. You need a water pressure gauge to insure you're getting enough water to the intakes, if not, you may have to lower the engine a bit.


Do you have a foot throttle?
Thanks again for all of the help. I called Teleflex and they explained to me how to get play out of the steering mechanism. The play at the back of the motor is down to zero (was 1 inch) and the play at the steering wheel is around 1.5 - 2 inches. The Teleflex guy said 1.5 inches to each side is normal.

This week I am taking the boat to have the motor raised up on the jack plate. I am a teacher and school starts tomorrow, so hopefully I will be able to get out on the water before the end of the season.

Re: Viper

by hydrostream76 » Aug 23, 2010 5:59 pm

if you have a problem with the pressure you can plug the top 2 or 3 holes
helps a bit
i love the string idea
nice rig by the way,
close up shots look nice

Re: Viper

by Habiv » Aug 23, 2010 5:46 pm

I'll sort these two things out and keep you posted.

Thanks again and maybe I'll see you at the CT river run.

Re: Viper

by transomstand » Aug 23, 2010 5:29 pm

The 2" below is not critical, just a good starting point. You could easily go up a couple sets of holes on the engine height to get what you need. If pressure is still good, you can move up 1/4-1/2 inch at a time until pressure starts to drop.

The big deal is to get that steering adjusted. The best driver in the world can't drive it like that

Re: Viper

by Habiv » Aug 23, 2010 5:06 pm

transomstand wrote:I believe you said you're not running a nose cone, so I can't recommend going to full height, although higher propshaft heights can help handling.

I think you have dual cable steering, let's make sure it's adjusted correctly. Grab your engine, and see if you can shake it side to side (you should not be able to). If you have zero play in the steering, next, address prop shaft height. Tape a string to the front of the V in the hull, run the string down the length of the bottom, just touching the rear of the pad and extend the string past the lower unit and tie it off to something. The string along the bottom should reveal a pronounced hook in the bottom of the hull, that's normal. With the prop off, level the prop shaft with the string. Adjust the jackplate/engine bolts until the prop shaft is about 2" below the string(if you had a cone, we would want to be higher).

At this point, your propshaft is 2" below the bottom, and your trim angle is neutral. Hop in the boat and sight the engine, noting the trim angle, this is the way the engine should be set while your learning. You need a water pressure gauge to insure you're getting enough water to the intakes, if not, you may have to lower the engine a bit.

Do you have a foot throttle?
Thanks for the help...this is really good information.

1.I have dual steering cables. If I go to the back of the boat and move the engine, there is about one inch of play before I can't move the motor. But, if I go in the boat and move the steering wheel, there is about 3 to 4 inches of play until the motor actually moves.

2.I do have a foot pedal, and you are correct, there is no nose cone.

3.I have a water pressure gauge and trim gauge.

4.I think we are going to have issues with the position of the motor. I put the jack plate all the way up, did the string thing, and the center of the prop shaft is only 3 inches below the line. It seems that I will have to have the motor re-mounted at least one inch higher so that I can get to the minimal 2 inch mark.

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If you look at the picture, you will see a piece of tape marking the prop shaft. The top of this piece of tape is the center of the prop shaft. There is a second horizontal piece of tape and the bottom of this piece of tape marks the transom string line. You will also notice a third piece of tape going vertically. The top of this tape is two inches above the prop shaft. As you can see, there is an inch space between the top of this piece of tape and the string line. So, if this two inch setting you have explained to me is the average/training level setting, then I am going to have to substantially raise the mounting position of the motor.

Here is a close up of the tape and string line:

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The next picture shows a close up of the motor and how it is currently mounted on the jack plate. Notice the lowest of the 5 bolt holes. If i didn't have a jack plate, I would not be able to mount this motor at the correct height (two inch level) because the lowest bolt hole is higher than the transom. I don't know what this means, but it is extra information.

This picture shows the current motor mounting:

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Thanks again for the help.

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